Senate Tax Reform Will Ditch Particular person Mandate, CNN Appears at Sexual Harassment in Congress, and Extra Republicans Need Moore to Go: P.M. Hyperlinks


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  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

    “Senate Tax Reform Will Ditch Particular person Mandate”
    Certain

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    It doesn’t matter what they do with the person mandate, we’re nonetheless caught with the precedent of it being declared authorized. I can solely think about what is going to proceed to be justified below that studying of the commerce clause.

  • Juice||#

  • loveconstitution1789||#

    With Gorsuch and an actual conservative substitute for Kennedy and a conservative substitute for Ruth Gingsburg ought to tip the courtroom sufficient towards the Structure that one other case of being compelled to purchase one thing needs to be shot down.

  • Juice||#

    They already shot it down on Commerce Clause grounds. And the penaltax justification solely got here from 1 justice, so it is not likely a majority opinion and never very stable “precedent.” It may simply be overturned. If they need it.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    And I can solely hope they do. However I are likely to not maintain my breath about Authorities rolling issues again. Hopefully one thing of this nature can come earlier than the courtroom once more although and roll it again.

  • Calidissident||#

    Kennedy was within the dissent on that case.

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

    Is that what occurred? They pushed Obamacare via as a tax citing the commerce clause, making it a Congress situation to bypass states rights?

    Forgive my ignorance, on sure points my eyes glaze over as a result of:

    1) I’ve no energy so why get all tremendous invested on one thing I can not management (the stoic in me)
    2) They’re coming to take my cash and I can not do something about it however fork it over (see 1)

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    No, Roberts turned it right into a tax after ruling that it wasn’t a tax and therefore they may rule on it as a result of it did not violate the anti-injunction regulation. Dizzy but?

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    Having fun with your ultimate respite till the snow comes? I scalped most of my perennials on Sunday.

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

    Oh I’ve turn out to be fairly the homebody. An excessive amount of time indoors as it’s, the snow will not be altering a lot there. I am going to nonetheless curse the F out of it when vital tho.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    My child ought to lastly be sufficiently old to take pleasure in it. Will not be sufficient to make up for shitty commutes however at the least it is one thing.

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

    That’ll be enjoyable man. Winter is a magical time for a kid, countless journey.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Except I remembering incorrectly, I imagine that the Particular person Mandate, not essentially Obamacare as a complete, was justified below the commerce clause. This was determined within the supreme courtroom again when Obamacare first took maintain.

  • Juice||#

    You’re remembering incorrectly. four justices stated that it was constitutional below the commerce clause and four stated it wasn’t. 1 stated that it is okay if it is a tax and it is “not an excessive amount of.”

  • BYODB||#

    The mandate was interpreted right into a tax, for the reason that SC admitted level clean that such a penalty for refusing to have interaction in commerce wouldn’t be constitutional.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Alright, I’ll stand corrected then. I hope my confusion on that bizarre ruling is at the least comprehensible, if not right.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    See above. I would not fault anybody for being confused by the logic Roberts used.

  • BYODB||#

    I am nonetheless confused about it, since I did not assume reinterpreting laws from the bench was constitutional both.

  • Juice||#

    for the reason that SC admitted level clean that such a penalty for refusing to have interaction in commerce wouldn’t be constitutional

    four justices anyway. The opposite four stated that is it is hunky dory.

  • BYODB||#

    True, I suppose it might be extra correct to say they cut up with Roberts deciding that simply the tip wasn’t sufficient.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    What’s the supposed examine on SC choices anyway? It isn’t simply that we may amend the structure is it?

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    Or congress passes a particular regulation just like the Spiritual Freedom Act. Or impeachment and elimination.

  • Mickey Rat||#

    As a result of the Obama administration made some guarantees about not imposing new taxes on low revenue folks, they didn’t need it labeled as a tax. Classifying it as a penalty bumped into due course of issued

  • Mickey Rat||#

    Which is why Roberts went again to it being a tax (since tax assessments aren’t topic to due course of requirements in the identical method an outright penalty). Although I imagine the way in which the ACA was handed make any new taxes below it legally doubtful. Your entire factor was an train for Roberts to find out easy methods to maintain it whereas ignoring the authorized chicanery and ignoring the legal guidelines about how laws is created and applied, as a result of Roberts was spooked by Obama threatening SCOTUS within the State of the Union after Residents United.

  • Libertarian||#

    Rand Paul should have been working from dwelling. This was his tweet right now:

    Right this moment I’m asserting my intention to amend the Senate tax invoice to repeal the person mandate and supply larger tax cuts for center revenue taxpayers.

    The mandate repeal is a promise all of us made and we should always maintain. It additionally permits a further $300 billion+ in tax cuts.
    11:24 AM – Nov 14, 2017

    Schumer is already whining in regards to the gop inserting healthcare right into a tax invoice, however the SC already dominated the mandate a tax. Hahahahaha.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    What’s his introduced spending cuts to accommodate this?

  • CE||#

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    However the worth of the cuts is overstated as a result of it is based mostly on CBO’s magical enthusiastic about how efficient it’s.

  • loveconstitution1789||#

    Fucking ‘n’ th D chess, even with some damaged ribs.

  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

  • Juice||#

    I like all of the replies. “You are taking away healthcare from 13 million People!”

    No, he is not forcing them to purchase an overpriced product they do not need and may’t afford.

  • BYODB||#

    When not forcing somebody to purchase one thing is identical as taking it away? Oof. That is what passes for logic and cause lately.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    It is a unhappy instance the place the means don’t matter. Extra individuals are insured, due to this fact it’s good. That it’s performed at gunpoint doesn’t change that truth.

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

  • BYODB||#

    Certainly, and it is explicitly as a result of they wanted these our bodies to even faux like such an association of regulation would create end result. They had to steal their cash to make the boat sink slower.

    Frankly, it is turn out to be clear that both the ends do not matter to them both or their true ends aren’t what they are saying.

    I am betting that for the ‘leaders’ it is the second bit, and for the ‘followers’ it is the primary bit.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    One factor is the issue that many are attempting to resolve is not to truly assist folks. For many individuals it’s merely to really feel higher about themselves. Individuals will vote for issues that sound good, and that they’ll rationalize nearly as good after which have much less concern for the outcomes. Specifically, as a result of for a lot of the inhabitants the affect by no means results their life very a lot.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    And that is born the american welfare state. I am going to give the europeans for being a little bit extra sincere and making the center class pay for his or her goodies, however even there their urge for food for spending exceeds their means.

  • buddhastalin||#

    Well being “insurance coverage” will not be well being care. Simply ask all these California Medicaid recipients who cannot get physician appointments as a result of no physician needs to be paid shit for his or her companies.

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  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!

  • Gbob||#

  • Fist of Etiquette||#

    An increasing number of Republicans need no extra of Moore.

    Excellent. Definitely worth the scant hyperlinks.

  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

    “An increasing number of Republicans need no extra of Moore.”
    Would you?

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    *Googles Thomas Moore*

    Would.

  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

    O…..okay then.
    *wanders off into visitors*

  • Fist of Etiquette||#

    U.S. leads world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.

    AND consumption, I hope.

  • CE||#

    All with out Romney’s “Apollo program for vitality”.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    We’re again child! U.S. leads world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.

    I am actually simply comfortable that you simply’re comfortable Christian.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||#

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    My doubts about his libertarianism vanished as I watch his glee at our nations fossil gas manufacturing. God velocity… son.

  • Tom Bombadil||#

    I think the child wrote that along with his sarcasm pen.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    Neither new or information:

    The US Power Info Administration estimated that the US turned the world’s high petroleum and pure gasoline producer in 2012.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Simply let my boy have this. Why do you need to shit within the punch bowl?

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    It is nearer than the bathroom and I’ve IBD?

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    You are a kind of guys who has piss bottles subsequent to his desk, aren’t you?

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

    I had a piss bottle after I broke my femur. Pissing in mattress (outdoors of childhood) is a luxurious few will ever expertise.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    I do have two partial water bottles in my workplace (and a two pack of oats n honey granola bars) on case of the zombie apocalypse. There are additionally some petrified gumballs in my darth vader dispenser that may most likely be used in opposition to werewolves.

  • Fist of Etiquette||#

    The Senate reportedly plans to incorporate repeal of Obamacare’s particular person mandate in its tax reform proposal.

    WHAT? You’ll be able to’t do this! Obamacare has nothing to do with taxes.

  • loveconstitution1789||#

    I’m being compelled to care about that!

  • Fist of Etiquette||#

    …Legal professional Common Jeff Classes pushed again on calls for for a particular counsel to investigation alleged Clinton Marketing campaign misdeeds.

    The boss ain’t gonna be too proud of that.

  • Unlabelable MJGreen||#

    In Home testimony right now, Legal professional Common Jeff Classes pushed again on calls for for a particular counsel to investigation alleged Clinton Marketing campaign misdeeds.

    My head is spinning.

  • loveconstitution1789||#

    He is simply enjoying coy.

    The DOJ/FBI will reinvestigate Hillary and advocate indictment the following time the lefties are in full outrage mode about another TDS nonsense.

  • EscherEnigma||#

    Uncertain. Banging the “Clinton!” drum riles up the bottom, however the additional we get from the election, the extra it will drive independents away.

  • Tony||#

    As a result of that is undoubtedly how america justice division ought to work.

  • CE||#

    Gotta maintain some powder dry for 2020.

  • Fist of Etiquette||#

    CNN seems to be at sexual harassment in Congress.

    And jerks off.

  • Aloysious||#

    fta:

    In conversations with CNN, a number of girls pointed to the elevators on Capitol Hill as a spot the place workers and members prey on girls and say they’ve been suggested to keep away from driving alone with males if potential.

    Ban elevators.

  • CE||#

    They name it “the Packwood Approach” in DC.

  • Juice||#

    You stated pack wooden. heh heh heh heh heh /beavis

  • BYODB||#

    If something, that recommendation appears to be one thing the lads could be clever to concentrate to. It is their careers on the road, whereas it is a potential payout for her.

    Pence is smart past his years.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||#

    Fuckin’ Britches!

    Will any person smack the boy upside the pinnacle with some Alt-Textual content?

  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

    Sugar britches could be a greater nickname.

  • Entropy Drehmaschine Void||#

    Ain’t nuthin’ candy ’bout suck-ass hyperlinks.

  • Bacon-Magic glib reasonoid||#

    You guys do not know the way good you’ve it over right here, and I do not both.

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

    In Home testimony right now, Legal professional Common Jeff Classes pushed again on calls for for a particular counsel to investigation alleged Clinton Marketing campaign misdeeds

    A 12 months of Trump and it actually looks like a single day has but to cross.

  • BYODB||#

    Yeah, it is fairly wonderful how lock-step nearly your complete media institution has been for a complete calendar 12 months.

    We’re nonetheless speaking about if Russia hacked the election a 12 months in the past. How lengthy would such an investigation take? Simply ask Mueller, I suppose, however I nonetheless do not know the way he intends to query himself over his personal involvement within the case.

  • EscherEnigma||#

    How lengthy would such an investigation take?
    Primarily based on Benghazi, seven completely different investigations and 4 years.

  • BYODB||#

    Truthful level, I suppose, though if reminiscence serves there was by no means a Particular Council for any of these Obama period scandals. A minimum of not one I can recall, and positively not one which took a full 12 months to research.

  • loveconstitution1789||#

    Uh oh: 5 killed, 10 hospitalized in Rancho Tehama, California taking pictures.
    I suppose Nancy Pelosi can be within the media discussing how Commifornia strictest gun management measure within the USA are stopping gun violence. Shooter evidently is an ex-felon who would have been bared from possessing firearms.

  • gaoxiaen||#

  • Half-Advantage, Half-Vice||#

    We’re again child! U.S. leads world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.

    [Doesn’t know what to say — kneels]

  • Insurgent Scum||#

    We’re again, child! The U.S. leads the world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.

    #Profitable #MAGA

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||#

    CNN Appears at Sexual Harassment in Congress

    Thank god we are able to lastly cease Hollywood.

  • loveconstitution1789||#

    We’re again, child! The U.S. leads the world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.
    USA USA USA!

  • Libertarian||#

    “CNN seems to be at sexual harassment in Congress.”

    Oh, Congress, you are incorrigible! I bear in mind the web page fiasco from the 80s.

  • Stormy Dragon||#

    The U.S. leads the world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.

    WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR COAL MINERS!

  • EscherEnigma||#

    Solely when pandering for votes.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    Or sneering at their inferiors.

  • gaoxiaen||#

  • Diane Reynolds (Paul.)||#

    Seattle metropolis council: #MeToo

    Seattle will start taxing operators of short-term leases, reminiscent of these listed on Airbnb, the Metropolis Council determined Monday.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

  • Griffin3||#

    In unrelated information, extra AirBnB leases are being transacted utilizing Bitcoin and e-mail anonymizers. Metropolis inspectors are stymied as a result of they can not be arsed to truly journey to the homes, and thus are compelled to begin asset foreclosures proceedings on each property not owned by a council member.

  • Insurgent Scum||#

    In Home testimony right now, Legal professional Common Jeff Classes pushed again on calls for for a particular counsel to research alleged Clinton marketing campaign misdeeds.

    Legal guidelines are for little folks.

  • chemjeff||#

    “An increasing number of Republicans need no extra of Moore.”

    Revised Moore’s Regulation:

    The variety of sexual misconduct/assault allegations doubles each information cycle

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    A minimum of this can be a regulation that has a limiteless scaling future in contrast to that outdated, damaged transistor thingie.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Is perhaps factor. Inside 20 information cycles a politician should spend all of their time fucking simply to maintain up. Would possibly result in some good gridlock.

  • Pink Tony||#

    So what, Crusty’s operating for workplace now?

  • John||#

    No. It’s the quantity of political hypocrisy doubles each information cycle.

  • Tony||#

    You’re actually into defending this vile creature huh.

  • Philadelphia Collins||#

    Sufficient about Ted Kennedy.

  • Griffin3||#

    LOLOLOL! Cease, I am attempting to work right here!

  • Tony||#

    A minimum of decide somebody unique to whatabout about, Jesus.

  • Insurgent Scum||#

    CNN seems to be at sexual harassment in Congress.

    And finds that solely folks wit an R subsequent to their identify are responsible.

  • Insurgent Scum||#

    The Senate reportedly plans to incorporate repeal of Obamacare’s particular person mandate in its tax reform proposal.

    The ACA then crashes. Crew Pink is blamed. Right here we come socialized healthcare.

  • chemjeff||#


    The Senate reportedly plans to incorporate repeal of Obamacare’s particular person mandate in its tax reform proposal.

    Huh. So evidently, repealing the mandate, in accordance with authorities accounting logic, “saves the federal government cash” as a result of fewer folks can be compelled to get medical insurance, they’ll drop protection, and authorities spends much less on backed medical insurance.

    I suppose that is one approach to scale back the welfare state. A really convoluted one.

  • John||#

    Cease forcing folks to take part in welfare applications is one fairly direct approach to scale back the welfare state.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    Certainly. Nevertheless it’s virtually definitely overstated in worth.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    I am often hesitant about CBO stories.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    APOSTASY! The stimulus labored! 18MM signed up for barrycare this 12 months!

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    It isn’t an Apostate. I am not really a democrat, irrespective of how a lot some folks insinuate I’m.

  • NotAnotherSkippy||#

    Guess I shoulda used a /sarc tag…

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Me too, I really am a lefty and a communist.

  • John||#

  • Jerryskids||#

    CNN seems to be at sexual harassment in Congress.

    And now I’ve my doubts that Congress even exists.

  • Tony||#

    “The U.S. leads the world in oil and gasoline manufacturing.”

    Oh God no person inform Trump. Or wait, sure, somebody inform him and that this implies he received.

  • Philadelphia Collins||#

    He accepted the election outcomes. What extra would you like?

  • Tony||#

  • Stormy Dragon||#

    This does make Moore’s help for transgender lavatory payments make sense at the least. He is aware of what HE’D do if he have been allowed to enter the ladies’s restroom and is simply assuming that everybody else would do the identical factor.

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Girls are most likely sinning up in there. Sinning throughout one another.

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  • Griffin3||#

    What mixture of cosmic forces have led somebody to imagine that the way in which to riches is to spam THIS place with advertisements in ARABIC for CLEANING SERVICES???

    Is that this an efficient approach to rip-off in any nook of the identified multiverse?

  • Pink Tony||#

    The unhappy factor is it is in English, not Arabic, however for a service ostensibly within the Arab world.

    I imply, what’s up with that? Is Purpose getting quite a lot of hits from the Center East? Is it the main supply for American information over in Yemen?

  • BestUsedCarSales||#

    Effectively, which may simply be that the hostname have to be in ascii characters. The trail identify has much less restriction than that because it’s kind of a file path for a take away server.

  • Tony||#

    As a result of a few of you folks appear to wish this earlier than you might be able to condemning an accused little one predator, I’ll acknowledge that I agree with just about each phrase of this:

    I Imagine Juanita

  • Bra Ket||#

    I am impressed how that writer packed 9 paragraphs of anti-republican narrative and conspiracies round two or three sentences related to the precise title.

  • gaoxiaen||#

    that image, I can solely say that it isn’t an excellent likeness of Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.



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